Comments on: The [Two] Three Funerals of Michael Jackson http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Internet based resources for current and former Jehovah's Witnesses Mon, 06 Feb 2012 00:11:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Editor http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-872 Editor Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:36:54 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-872 John: What has been written here is the truth. I could pull up the Watchtower CD and find dozens of references in magazines, books, and other literature published by the Society that discourage personal Bible reading and research. This is a pattern that goes all the way back to C. T. Russell; he claimed that anyone could study his six books (Studies in the Scriptures) and learn everything they needed to know about the Bible. But if they read only the Bible, they would fall into confusion and apostasy. Of course we now know that less than 5% of what Russell wrote in those six Studies in the Scriptures books is still taught by Jehovah's Witnesses today. The "great apostasy" of the 1980-82 period at Watchtower Bethel in New York was supposedly due to small Bible study groups meeting and discussing the scriptures. Many of these brothers and sisters still believed as JWs, but did come up with some questions when they compared actual Bible scriptures to what the Watchtower taught. Did the Society answer their questions? No. The Society disfellowshipped everyone accused of being a part of those Bible study groups. If you don't believe me, go tell your elders that you are studying the Bible on your own without using the Watchtower literature and see what they do. What many of us know, because we've actually checked many times, is that many of the scriptures quotes in the Watchtower publications are often not relevant to the paragraph at hand, and if you read the whole chapter in context, the Bible often says exactly the opposite of what is being taught in those Watchtower paragraphs. All of the writers and contributors on this website have been longtime JWs, some elders and pioneers, and some former Bethel and Gilead graduates. We do know the truth about Watchtower Bible studies - and that truth is not pretty.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('872','Editor'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> John: What has been written here is the truth. I could pull up the Watchtower CD and find dozens of references in magazines, books, and other literature published by the Society that discourage personal Bible reading and research. This is a pattern that goes all the way back to C. T. Russell; he claimed that anyone could study his six books (Studies in the Scriptures) and learn everything they needed to know about the Bible. But if they read only the Bible, they would fall into confusion and apostasy. Of course we now know that less than 5% of what Russell wrote in those six Studies in the Scriptures books is still taught by Jehovah’s Witnesses today. The “great apostasy” of the 1980-82 period at Watchtower Bethel in New York was supposedly due to small Bible study groups meeting and discussing the scriptures. Many of these brothers and sisters still believed as JWs, but did come up with some questions when they compared actual Bible scriptures to what the Watchtower taught. Did the Society answer their questions? No. The Society disfellowshipped everyone accused of being a part of those Bible study groups. If you don’t believe me, go tell your elders that you are studying the Bible on your own without using the Watchtower literature and see what they do. What many of us know, because we’ve actually checked many times, is that many of the scriptures quotes in the Watchtower publications are often not relevant to the paragraph at hand, and if you read the whole chapter in context, the Bible often says exactly the opposite of what is being taught in those Watchtower paragraphs. All of the writers and contributors on this website have been longtime JWs, some elders and pioneers, and some former Bethel and Gilead graduates. We do know the truth about Watchtower Bible studies – and that truth is not pretty.
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]]> By: John http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-851 John Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:41:45 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-851 <a href='#comment-466' rel="nofollow">@Editor</a> - I have to speak up because what you just said is simply not the truth. As a Jehovah's Witness you are encouraged to study the bible at every possible chance and to seek the truth not just take anybody's word for it. The publications they use are study aids but never meant to be a substitute for or to replace the bible, as it is Gods Word. It is possible as a young person you did not understand all that was going on at the time. Although no man is perfect Jehovah's Witnesses strive to live as perfect as they can in this imperfect world. They know the only way to accomplish that is to learn what Gods rules are and try to follow them and the only way to know what those rules are is to read and study the bible. It is such a shame when people say things about stuff they know nothing about, and in this case that is what happened. I would think if you are so concerned about the truth you would want to make sure you knew what it was.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('851','John'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> @Editor – I have to speak up because what you just said is simply not the truth. As a Jehovah’s Witness you are encouraged to study the bible at every possible chance and to seek the truth not just take anybody’s word for it. The publications they use are study aids but never meant to be a substitute for or to replace the bible, as it is Gods Word. It is possible as a young person you did not understand all that was going on at the time. Although no man is perfect Jehovah’s Witnesses strive to live as perfect as they can in this imperfect world. They know the only way to accomplish that is to learn what Gods rules are and try to follow them and the only way to know what those rules are is to read and study the bible. It is such a shame when people say things about stuff they know nothing about, and in this case that is what happened. I would think if you are so concerned about the truth you would want to make sure you knew what it was.
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]]> By: Angie http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-661 Angie Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:45:54 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-661 MAKING BETTER PLACE IN AFRICA JW CHARITY http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/jwb04e.htm<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('661','Angie'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> MAKING BETTER PLACE IN AFRICA JW CHARITY
http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/jwb04e.htm
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]]> By: Angie http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-660 Angie Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:36:20 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-660 REGARDS TO ALL ALMOST 8MILIONS OF WITNESSES OF GOD JHVH, AND TO OTHER COUPLE OF MILIONS STUDENTS, MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE JUST U AND I :D<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('660','Angie'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> REGARDS TO ALL ALMOST 8MILIONS OF WITNESSES OF GOD JHVH, AND TO OTHER COUPLE OF MILIONS STUDENTS,
MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE JUST U AND I
:D
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]]> By: Angie http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-659 Angie Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:25:11 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-659 THERE IS A CHOICE WE ARE MAKING WE'RE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES so make a better day you and me, and lets start giving... and when u think of the choice u have when JW knock your door, u can ask them questions about the better place, as we can be the children of Gods family, just u and me:D<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('659','Angie'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> THERE IS A CHOICE WE ARE MAKING
WE’RE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES
so make a better day you and me, and lets start giving…
and when u think of the choice u have

when JW knock your door, u can ask them questions about the better place, as we can be the children of Gods family, just u and me:D

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]]> By: liz http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-658 liz Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:20:38 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-658 my friends who were also raised as jehovahs witnesses made the descision to dedicate their lives to jehovah by getting baptised. this didnt happen when they were children. it happened when they were old enough to make the descision for themselves. they made the truth their own. if they had a life i which they felt they were missing out and wanted what was offered elsewhere, they wouldnt have gotten baptised. they would have gone for it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('658','liz'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> my friends who were also raised as jehovahs witnesses made the descision to dedicate their lives to jehovah by getting baptised. this didnt happen when they were children. it happened when they were old enough to make the descision for themselves. they made the truth their own. if they had a life i which they felt they were missing out and wanted what was offered elsewhere, they wouldnt have gotten baptised. they would have gone for it.
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]]> By: Rose http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-591 Rose Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:41:10 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-591 So sad to see a child turn up a adult with so much mental problems because men that want rules a entire group of inocent people... GO OUT WATCH TOWER OF OUR LIVES...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('591','Rose'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> So sad to see a child turn up a adult with so much mental problems because men that want rules a entire group of inocent people… GO OUT WATCH TOWER OF OUR LIVES…
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]]> By: Elusive Soul http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-586 Elusive Soul Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:06:10 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-586 How come Michael's mother was allowed to stay in touch with Michael if he had been baptised? My father is a JW elder and is not allowed to stay in touch with my sister, who was baptised at the age of 10. So much for JW's not baptising children. The elders that contnuously make human errors continuously ruin people's lives.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('586','Elusive Soul'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> How come Michael’s mother was allowed to stay in touch with Michael if he had been baptised? My father is a JW elder and is not allowed to stay in touch with my sister, who was baptised at the age of 10. So much for JW’s not baptising children. The elders that contnuously make human errors continuously ruin people’s lives.
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]]> By: Elusive Soul http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-585 Elusive Soul Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:21:05 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-585 If only the rulers of JW's thought so, that it's up to Jehovah to judge each of us, not some megalomaniac male chauvinistic elders.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('585','Elusive Soul'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> If only the rulers of JW’s thought so, that it’s up to Jehovah to judge each of us, not some megalomaniac male chauvinistic elders.
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]]> By: bobo http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson/comment-page-2#comment-581 bobo Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:14:34 +0000 http://ex-jw.com/?p=831#comment-581 Jehova examines our hearts and only he knows what truly lies therein.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('581','bobo'); return false;">Reply</a> </div> Jehova examines our hearts and only he knows what truly lies therein.
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